Durant é do Golden State Warriors

[Air Okada#00]

David West has agreed upon a one-year deal with the Golden State Warriors for the veteran's minimum.

West will make $1.55 million with the Warriors.

[erick#9]

Hahahah que fim de carreira triste. Vou torcer pro Spurs na próxima temporada.

[custodio]

Passei aqui só pra lembrar que o erick só fala merda.
Abraços

[marlonks]

Russell Westbrook can leave Oklahoma City a year from now.

Is this the time to trade him -- before he can walk away?

What deals would make the most sense?

Our NBA Insiders give their top four moves -- while two writers argue against a trade.


Los Angeles Lakers

Lakers get: Westbrook, Steven Adams and 2020 first-round draft pick

Thunder get: D'Angelo Russell, Brandon Ingram, Julius Randle, Lou Williams and Nick Young

See in ESPN's trade machine

David Thorpe: L.A. is the likely destination for Westbrook, so the Lakers could just sit and wait a year.

But why not be able to offer him the richest contract possible next July? Getting Adams would allow the Lakers to have a potential All-Star for years to come, and they can move Timofey Mozgov at the trade deadline.

Why would the Lakers insist on Adams? Because they would be giving up three high-upside players who are on below-market rookie contracts, while Westbrook would be free to leave the Lakers in 2017 if he wanted to. Adams would be the price of taking on the Thunder's risk that Westbrook might depart.

This trade would give the Lakers two fantastic building blocks and set them up for next year's free agency. And the pick ensures a young talent to help them stay afloat down the line.

For the Lakers, moving their three best building blocks would hurt -- especially Ingram -- but they are far from ready to play with the likes of Westbrook, Adams and Luol Deng. Also -- the trade would allow Jordan Clarkson to develop in a better, winning environment.

OKC would have three talented young guys to start over, as they did when they drafted Kevin Durant, Westbrook and James Harden in succession from 2007 to 2009. While these players probably won't hit the same heights, the Thunder are following a model similar to the one that allowed general manager Sam Presti to build a great team in the first place.

Williams and Young might yield assets in follow-up trades.

Regardless: In just a few years time, OKC would be back in the thick of things.

Boston Celtics

Thunder get: Marcus Smart, Jae Crowder, Amir Johnson and rights to the Celtics' first-round pick swap with the Nets in 2017

Celtics get: Westbrook

See in ESPN's trade machine

Steve Ilardi: Celtics general manager Danny Ainge has been accumulating assets for years in the hopes of landing a superstar, so the question now becomes: How much is he willing to give up to acquire Westbrook?

Since Westbrook is a transcendent NBA talent -- and top five in ESPN's predictive real plus-minus (RPM) -- teams would surely line up with jaw-dropping trade offers to secure his services if he were made available.

Players of Westbrook's caliber are almost never traded in their prime and -- as former Sixers GM Sam Hinkie never tired of reminding us -- superstars are a prerequisite for any team's credible championship run. So I suspect the Celtics would be willing to deal at least three of their prized assets to get Westbrook.

The proposed trade would leave Boston with a hole at small forward, but it could still address it with another trade (or free-agent pickup). And even without further roster tweaks, the Celtics' new core of Westbrook, Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, Al Horford, Jared Sullinger (assuming they re-sign the restricted free agent) and Kelly Olynyk should vault them into contention with the Cavs in the East.

The deal also makes sense for OKC. The Thunder would nab a coveted lottery pick, bring home native son Marcus Smart and yield an emerging two-way threat in Jae Crowder. Smart and Crowder would fit nicely with Victor Oladipo, Andre Roberson and Steven Adams to give the Thunder a stable of young defensive studs, a few complementary scorers (Anthony Morrow, Enes Kanter and Ersan Ilyasova) and a couple of talented youngsters (Payne and Domantas Sabonis).

Losing Westbrook (and Durant) would be a crushing blow, but such a trade could help kickstart a promising OKC rebuild.

Bradford Doolittle: Right after the Durant news broke, I tweeted wondering whether Ainge had already called about Westbrook or if he'd allow Presti a respectful time to recover.

That knee-jerk reaction -- that the Celtics are the obvious fit -- remains true for me. Westbrook would boost Boston into the elite, teaming with Al Horford to make the Celtics a challenging opponent for Cleveland in a possible Eastern Conference finals.

As a slight variation on the trade proposed by Steve Ilardi above, Boston has the draft stock to spare and can include Isaiah Thomas, Smart or Jaylen Brown, along with Brooklyn's 2017 first-rounder (a pick-swap option) as a starting point.

For the Celtics, there's a risk that Westbrook would leave after one season. But I'd gamble that a year of winning in Boston and playing for Brad Stevens would sell him on the organizational culture. Horford and Westbrook would be the best non-Cleveland one-two punch in the East, and the Celtics would still have a deep roster of top role players and defenders around them -- and ways to build further.

The Thunder would begin again in their quest for a franchise star and would swap roles with the Celtics. Oklahoma City would remain a playoff contender and hope that the Brooklyn pick pays off in a new foundation player.

Sacramento Kings

Kings get: Westbrook and Kyle Singler

Thunder get: DeMarcus Cousins and Willie Cauley-Stein

See in ESPN's trade machine

Tom Haberstroh: I think the best deal involves the Lakers for Russell and Ingram, as David Thorpe outlined above, but I'll also throw this one in the pile: Sacramento trades Cousins and Cauley-Stein for Westbrook and Singler.

The Kings change the face of the franchise from Cousins to Westbrook, and Westbrook gets to head closer to home in California. I'm not sure Sacramento signs off on the deal without an assurance from Westbrook on a long-term deal, but it has to be better than the rotten situation with Cousins.

Lakers, Celtics, Magic and Suns

Kevin Pelton: Shortly after Durant's announcement, I looked at the big picture for the Thunder and talked about whether they should trade Westbrook now.

As discussed in the column, the Lakers might be willing to offer Russell as the centerpiece of a Westbrook trade, since Russell would probably be redundant if they were to sign Westbrook in 2017, as some expect.

The Celtics could build an offer around Isaiah Thomas as a replacement point guard and the draft picks they have coming from the Brooklyn Nets.

And teams like the Orlando Magic and Phoenix Suns might look at trading their young talent for Westbrook as a way to jumpstart the rebuilding process.

Don't trade Westbrook

Amin Elhassan: Honestly? I wouldn't automatically assume trading Westbrook to be a foregone conclusion.

Teams search high and low for a franchise-caliber superstar when they lose one. OKC is in the fortunate position of still having one.

If it's the fear of losing him next year, there's a way to either confirm or completely refute it. As Brian Windhorst pointed out, the departure of Durant leaves OKC with considerable cap space. They can approach Westbrook with a renegotiation and extension, giving him approximately $8 million this year to bring him to the current max, then keep him in 2017-18 (which would take him to his 10-year veteran summer and make him eligible for highest max percentage of the cap) and include a player option on 2018-19.

If they can make this kind of deal with Westbrook, that buys the Thunder some certainty in the near future, allowing them to build the team around Russ while giving Westbrook more money now and the flexibility to test free agency as a 10-year vet.

Jeremias Engelmann: Yeah, don't trade him. If the first two days of this free agency have proved anything, it's that even average players have an easy time getting maximum deals. This, in turn, means that the true superstars are incredibly valuable. They are, by comparison, extremely underpaid.

I would much rather be paying maximum money to a true difference maker -- Westbrook was sixth in RPM this season -- than to the likes of Harrison Barnes (RPM -1.3) or DeMar DeRozan (-0.1).

If you have a superstar you hold on to him with both hands, unless you get a player of the same caliber back -- but I don't see Chris Paul, Kawhi Leonard or Draymond Green on the trading block.

"I mean, if at any point in your life you have to publically say that you don't like your a$$ played with, you have to look back and realize you made at least a couple wrong turns..." -Stadiq

[coldheart]

Sam Amico ‏@AmicoHoops 3m3 minutes ago

Names on #Warriors' list of potential FA recruits include Mario Chalmers, Kendrick Perkins, and yes, Ray Allen, per San Francisco Chronicle.

Ray Allen? Putz...

Sobre o que o Marla postou, se o Mitch quiser fazer essa trade, tem que ser demitido no mesmo dia.

[Luis_555]

Será que a imprensa não esta confundindo o recrutamento pras olimpíadas com a offseason do Golden State?

[Lagoa]

Eu já vi essa novela com o Lakers, com Real Madrid, esse esquema de "timaço" no papel é algo que só podemos dizer quando ver jogando.

Alias, esse ano, todo mundo já dizia: Já era! Warriors campeão, que sem graça.....e deu no que deu....rs.

No papel, esse Warriors é ABSURDOOOOOO, masssss tanta coisa pode acontecer.

[Wacko]

Só eu que vi uma secada monstro no post acima ?

[Lagoa]

hahahaha, seco o Warriors há 2 anos!

[PontiacSilverDome]

Deu no que deu hahaha
Nba dando uma ajudada monstra

[Lagoa]

Deu no que deu mesmo...

Warriors 73-9 e PERDEU NA FINAL pro Cavs.

Ponti, vc ainda não entendeu que não pode me zuar ou zuar o Cavs até a final de 2017?

[custodio]

lagoa esta certo em dizer que no papel eh uma coisa, na pratica eh outra (acho que todo mundo sabe disso). mas esta MUITO errado em dizer que ha mais casos que deram merda do que que funcionaram.

[Lagoa]

Custa,

Não estamos falando de Heat e Celtics.

Mano, Heat era first round team antes de montar aquele time legal. Celtics saiu do pior do leste de 2007 para o melhor em 2008. Estamos falando de um time que foi campeão temporada passada e que venceu 73 partidas e bateu o recorde da história da liga.

Pensa só a pressão em cima desse Warriors. Se vencerem 70 jogos já será decepcionante? rs

E como será? Porque Klay, Curry e Durant não vão manter seu volume, algum deles vai ter que diminuir bastante, eu imagino que Klay fará isso, é o de ego menor, mas existem muitos fatores duvidosos ai.

É o único time da história que terá 4max salary. Enfim, o papel não garante nada, até porque, no ano passado Warriors já foi o melhor time da história.

[Schneider123]

Custa,

Não estamos falando de Heat e Celtics.

Mano, Heat era first round team antes de montar aquele time legal. Celtics saiu do pior do leste de 2007 para o melhor em 2008. Estamos falando de um time que foi campeão temporada passada e que venceu 73 partidas e bateu o recorde da história da liga.

Pensa só a pressão em cima desse Warriors. Se vencerem 70 jogos já será decepcionante? rs

E como será? Porque Klay, Curry e Durant não vão manter seu volume, algum deles vai ter que diminuir bastante, eu imagino que Klay fará isso, é o de ego menor, mas existem muitos fatores duvidosos ai.

É o único time da história que terá 4max salary. Enfim, o papel não garante nada, até porque, no ano passado Warriors já foi o melhor time da história.

proxima temporada com ctz eles nao serão burros o suficiente pra forçar 70 vitorias ou mais. Entao o numero de vitorias na temporada regular vai ser irrelevante

[saraiva]

Menos de 65 vitórias já vai ser frustrante demais

[jaogui]

75 77 deve rolar.

[coldheart]

Não importa o número de vitórias. Basta conseguir o primeiro lugar overall e depois passar a rola nos playoffs.

O importante mesmo é chegar saudável na hora que realmente importa.

[custodio]

eu acho que vai 70, ao natural, sem forcar. mas como alguem ai disse, copletamente irrelevante.

se rolar 65, que tera grandes chances de ser seed #1, pode decepcionar torcedores e tal, mas duvido que o time vai se importar.

e de volta ao ponto de formar time cracks: o gsw JA TEM um time de craques, esta apenas adicionando uma peca. nao eh mesmo como o celtics ou heat que montaram o time praticamente do zero. chance de sucesso absurdamente maior.

[Lagoa]

Isso é verdade!

[Léo Palmieri]

Bom... será que na hora da verdade, o Durant não vai pipocar igual nos playoffs deste ano???

Uma das coisas que ferrou o GSW nas finais contra o cavs foi o tanto de bolas forçadas com 18 ou mais segundos faltando no relógio, sem todo o ataque posicionado e com o Cavs aproveitando cada erro... O Cavs jogou muito bem ofensivamente e também soube explorar essa falta de ar do GSW em querer correr com bolas de 3...

Acho que o Durant aí vai complicar o problema...